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Opinion Question: Trade Torrey Smith for Jimmy Graham
This ridiculously bad trade was just vetoed in my 5 keeper league. The Torrey Smith owner is pissed off because no collusion or cheating took place, so he believes the trade should have gone through. If the Jimmy Graham owner was dumb enough to do the trade it should have been processed. I vetoed the trade (the owner of Jimmy Graham is very new to FF and i didn't think he knew what he was doing). Thoughts on when the veto should be used and if it should have been used in this case?
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    Kacee Giger (624 Reputation Points)
    The veto was very appropriate in this case, in my opinion. If both owners were FF veterans and both planned on playing next year, then you might let it go as perhaps he believes Torrey Smith will be next year's A.J. Green. However, in this case it had to be done as the trade is obviously one-sided (#1 TE for an inconsistent, top-30ish WR coming off a one catch game) and the one owner is either clueless or just doesn't care (in either case, it's not fair to the other owners).
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    Christopher Sirinek (500 Reputation Points)
    I'm obviously biased but that was my sentiment exactly. Welcome all responses and critiques but happy to hear someone else had the same opinion as me.
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    Anthony Best (381 Reputation Points)
    i think this was a good veto since Jimmy owner was a beginner and it's a keeper league.. But at this point I also believe standings matter.. If Torrey is in contention to make playoffs and just wanted to bulk up his team the great veto. IT just sounds like Smith owner was taking advantage of naiveness of new guy.
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    Ryan Carr (712 Reputation Points)
    My opinion has always been that the veto should only be used in cases of obvious collusion or in the rare case of software error resulting in an issue (happened once). As Randall alluded to, part of the lumps that come with doing anything is in learning from your mistakes. If both parties consent to the trade, I believe that it should stand. If you start rescinding trades or blocking trades on pretense or perceived disparate value between sides, that becomes a slippery slope that has unforeseen side effects in years to come.
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    RANDALL SENN (540 Reputation Points)
    vetoing=helping bad players stay dumb. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. And if the team which was going to get Graham is a competitor of yours for a playoff spot, then it looks self-serving IMO.
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    Christopher Sirinek (500 Reputation Points)
    no playoffs, Smith team is a contender for money (fourth place), Graham owner is not going to be in the league next year. In a keeper league the loss of Graham is huge and whoever inherits the team is going to be very bad. Only mention because it wasn't meant to be a "teaching" exercise to help the Graham team. Just thought it was ridiculously bad/uneven trade
    RANDALL SENN (540 Reputation Points)
    If it's a keeper league, that's different. Don't want to hose the new guy who takes over next year. I'd have done the same thing.
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